By Joanne of Arc for Quebec Life Coalition — Photo : AdobeStock
Have we euthanized our seniors in long term care center (CHSLD) between the spring of 2020 and 2021?
The "CHSLD - Je me souviens" documentary ["Long term care centers - I remember"], about the hecatomb of nearly 6700 seniors in those residencies, has been circulating on social networks since September 30th, 2022.
The french group called "Macarons de la Dignité" organized a private screening of the film in September, which I attended and where I met the documentary director, Sylvain Laforest. We had a first interview during that evening.
Sylvain Laforest during the private screening of his documentary « CHSLD - Je me souviens »
Sylvain has directed more than a hundred documentaries for major broadcasting networks, then worked as a journalist for the news channel RT-France as well as in video journalism for Nous-TV St-Hyacinthe. Currently, he lives from the sale of his books and dedicates his time to projects that are close to his heart, such as the making of this documentary on abandoned seniors in Quebec's long term care centers.
The following is our second interview, which goes into more detail about the drama that occurred in Quebec's long term care residencies. Before our interview, Mr. Laforest insisted that I be on first-name terms with him.
Joanna: At what point did you realize that something was wrong with the long term care centers (CHSLD)?
Sylvain Laforest: As early as March 2020. By the way, I wrote a book in 2015 called « La déprogrammation » ["The Deprogramming"] in which I already talked about a pandemic, so when it started, I knew it was the operation they were launching. However, I didn't think it would last as long as it did. When I saw the hecatomb that was being caused in the senior residencies, I began to ask around to find out what was going on and I saw that it was the government that was putting in place measures that were absolutely grotesque and that were certain to make victims, because they were talking about a lack of care from the start.
When a government encourages panic rather than problem solving, you see, already that it is in a mode of system destruction.
Joanna: How did you find the people for the testimonies of the documentary "CHSLD - Je me souviens"?
S.L: It was the Macarons de la Dignité gang that approached me. At first, it was to promote them. Then they proposed to interview people about what happened and to build a promotional campaign from that. So, I said to them "If I can get these people to come and do interviews, I can do long interviews and make a documentary", so I suggested some names. I approached Robert Béliveau and Lucie Mandeville. Alain Roy was proposed to me and Claude Laferrière, he is a well-known lawyer who was already denouncing a lot. The anonymous nurse came forward when I made the call for the general public to come and witness through their personal stories.
I wanted to touch on several areas. With Lucie Mandeville, I had the psychological aspect, with Dr. Béliveau, I had the medical aspect, and so on. I have made 115 documentaries so far and I'm very used to structuring those. The other documentaries I have done were for the mainstream media.
Joanna: Can we conclude today that the surge in deaths that have been called "coronavirus-related" that are counted up to date in long term care centers in Quebec is completely false?
S.L: What they have done with their measures is that they have accelerated the deaths of people who would have survived another year or two. People go to long term care residencies at the end of life, they are already very fragile. In order for the pandemic (which is ultimately the flu) to look like a pandemic, they had to cause some sort of mortality peak. False cases, false emergencies, you can create them statistically, but deaths, you can't. Either people die, or people don't die. When people die, you inflate the statistics.
If you look at the statistics, the deaths that occurred in the spring of 2020, it's how the first wave was created. But if you compare the spring of 2020, with the year 2021 and 2022, it balances out. So these are people for whom we have accelerated their death. We can observe the same stratagy everywhere, in Italy, France, the State of New York, etc.
This first false wave was created with a lack of care.
The documentary makes us realize that simply denying access to these people’s natural family caregivers is the end for them. What's the point of going on living if you can't even see the people you love anymore? The people who are your last link to life...
You can't just lie about the statistics and hope to create a wave from the common flu.
Joanna: What proportion of deaths in long-term care facilities in Quebec in the spring of 2020 is really due to the Coronavirus, and what proportion would be due, instead, to euthanasia, lack of treatment, neglect, or another disease?
S.L: This percentage is impossible to calculate because we are navigating on false data everywhere and false tests. So it's impossible to know what that percentage is. However, what is interesting is that the WHO had discouraged people from doing autopsies [...] [as described in the interview with Dr. Béliveau]
Joanna: Our hypothesis at CQV, which cannot be proven at this point, but is at least important to state and explore, is the following: all over the world, including Quebec, "unvaccinated" health authorities against the influence of vaccine manufacturers, issued as early as March 13, 2020, in their respective regions, guidelines, protocols, policies that we knew full well would produce panic and collapse effects in some long-term care settings, causing the deaths of vulnerable people already living on the brink of death on a daily basis. What do you think of our hypothesis at CQV?
S.L: That's kind of a lot of what I've been saying since earlier.
[He had made an aside about this before.]
There is a Bulgarian doctor who did it as early as September 2020 [autopsies]. He did an article about it called "No one died of coronavirus" and he started doing autopsies. He also encouraged some of his colleagues to do autopsies in 7 European countries, and they reportedly did 150 autopsies. No one died of coronavirus, even though they were all people who were declared dead of coronavirus; they all had comorbidities. The CDC in the United States and the INSPQ here have talked about co-morbidities between 94% and 97%, so that leaves just 3-4% to have died from the coronavirus, but again, we don't know, because the tests are wrong. So, my estimate is that this whole pandemic was created on the usual flu, and then the numbers were forced. And people don't die from the usual flu. People are dying from other things, we're really talking about lack of care and yes somewhere if we decide to do measures that are lacks of care and we're not in a real pandemic, at that point, we can talk about euthanasia done by the state.
Joanna: Thank you for confirming.
"There seems to have been a kind of choice made where those who were on the verge of death were let go."-S.L. - Photo: AdobeStock
Joanna: Since when do we send people from hospitals to long-term care centers, where we don't even have the staff for it?
S.L: Even the mainstream media talked about this. There was a mess when they were sending people from hospitals to long term care centers where the staff was leaving. There was a shortage of staff, because they were all afraid of contracting the flu. Talk about creating chaos. There was no sense to this, other than wanting to create a first wave. And they called it a first wave, but it was not a first wave "for two cents"!
Joanna: The documentary demonstrates through the testimonies, that the isolation and other sanitary measures caused stress in the elders that weakened their already fragile immune systems and made them more susceptible to illnesses that would normally be relatively mild...
S.L: Based on the testimonies in the documentary, this is the only conclusion we can draw. The lack of care, the measures and the panic that was caused.
Joanna: Why do you think there was a policy of "triage" of seniors, denying them access to hospital services in a time of pandemic?
S.L: There seems to have been a kind of choice made to let those who were on the verge of death to be let go. The state is also responsible for these people, so they are often expensive to maintain. There is a part of it, I think, where there is an offloading of funds that happens when you let go of a bunch of people. At the same time, I know that families also pay for their elders, but there is still a portion that the state pays for.
I feel like it's the more advanced cases that have been let go. Probably they accelerated it in a lot of ways, whereas there are some that weren't on the verge [of death], but the steps they took accelerated it. Just deciding to cut off vitamin D, and vitamin C to people who never go outside....[he paused]
Joanna: And also morphine. There was a testimony about that in the documentary.
S.L: Yes morphine to ease the pain, when the person doesn't have any.
Joanna: What effect does it have?
S.L: Morphine, we know that it is the end protocol. That is, when you know that the person is not coming back, you go in with the morphine and you increase the dose quietly so that there is no suffering. So, I think there are some who have been committed to this dead end, quite prematurely. That was the case for Richard Caya's testimony.
Joanna: What's curious about his testimony is that he said his mother was doing very well.
S.L.: Yes, in addition.
Joanna: So, here we see the case of someone who is fine. What if it's been the majority of the cases?
S.L: It's very possible, but still, these people are at the end of life and are extremely vulnerable. So, if they are there, they are participants, in spite of themselves, in what the government wants to organize for them. It's a shame, but it's really easy what the government has done as an operation.
Joanna: To summarize this drama, the probable causes of euthanasia in long term care centers would be the following: a lack of Vitamin D and C, isolation, dehydration, morphine and mandatory vaccination of people with already weak organisms. Am I forgetting anything?
S.L: You should also know that many people were cut off from the medication they needed, and there was also a ban on resuscitating someone who was having a heart attack because you couldn't touch them. There was even a letter that was addressed to the paramedics in the fall of 2020 that was circulating from the MSSS (Department of Health and Social Services).
Joanna: It goes completely against the mission of the doctor or nurse. The doctor is becoming a murderer!
S.L: Yes, at least the conception of the physician's profession that we have.
S.L: Incidentally, this has happened 3 or 4 times, all over the world, in California, Israel and Colombia where there were prolonged physician strikes and the mortality rate decreased between 27%-50% during the physician strike. When the strikes ended, there was a recovery in the mortality rate.
"...there are many who were cut off from medications they needed" -S.L.- Photo: AdobeStock
Joanna: The testimony of a lady whose name escapes me at the moment is particularly an example of selection and elimination of an elder, her father. Among other things, she mentions that vitamin C was not given to him and that he died of dehydration. Can you confirm the name of this person who testifies in the documentary?
S.L: Yes, it is the testimony of Linette Tremblay. They let him go, literally.
Joanna: Can we say that covid was used to cover up the abuse of people and the euthanasia of seniors ?
S.L: I don't think covid can be used for anything. I think that the fake pandemic has been used to get people out of the government's hands, to create a climate of panic, to make sure that the population obeys things that have nothing to do with a pandemic, which are strictly economical and political. It is a conditioning towards obedience that was done by creating panic.
The logical argument is to look at the statistics we have on the coronavirus. The statistics on the death rate, the infection rate, the total number of deaths and their average over the last 3 years. We realize that 2020-2021-2022 were perfectly normal years, statistically speaking, and that the death rate of the coronavirus did not exceed that of the ordinary flu, so when we put all this together and on the other hand the statistics on the flu, colds and pneumonia have completely disappeared from the INSPQ for 3 years... 2 +2 make 4. If we add up the statistics on flu and colds and pneumonia, you arrive at the grand total, which is the coronavirus.
Joanna: People have been accused of killing their loved ones by visiting them, but it's ironic because the long term care centers have let people die, among other things, because of the isolation...
S.L: In fact, if you look at the government's intentions (...) they said to do everything to "protect others": put on your mask to protect others, keep your distance to protect others, get vaccinated to protect others... But in the European Parliament, a member of parliament from the Netherlands questioned the sales director of Pfizer in front of the European Parliament and asked her if Pfizer had done a study on the fact that the vaccine prevented the transmission of the virus, and she answered that there had been no study on that.
So that means that vaccinating to protect others is a notion that doesn't exist and is not supported by anything. So when we say that people could infect others, they had no idea of the transmission of this virus.
So it's part of a Public Relation campaign to justify not having people come (to visit the residents of long term care homes).
"We created a wave of slow euthanasia" -Sylvain Laforest - Photo: AdobeStock
Joanna: Plus, the documentary shows us seniors who were locked in their nursing home rooms by padlocks even when they were already vaccinated. There's no sense in that.
SL: Yes. So, on one hand, they said that getting vaccinated was to protect others, but even if they were vaccinated, they were kept locked up. They didn't want them to come back to life. They wanted to keep them confined. In terms of circumstantial evidence, a wave of slow euthanasia was created. The lack of care was absolutely pathetic. To have created the perfect conditions so that people would be understaffed on top of that, and there you have all the evidence that it was indeed a pure creation [of events].
Joanna: It seems to me that long term care centers (CHSLD) have become execution centers...
SL: In spite of themselves, because they were acting under the orders of the government... I know, because my girlfriend works in one of them. She could see that what they were told to do was not the right thing to do, except that they had no choice, but to follow orders and regulations. And the understaffing was very real for the 2.5 years, so the lack of care came with the lack of staff.
When the protocols mean that people can't see a smile, can't see their family caregivers, their relatives, this is what ends up happening...
The residencies were not complicit, but they had to apply the orders, otherwise they would have lost their jobs. The only one responsible is indeed the government.
Joanna: Is it still the case that seniors are affected by neglect in these long term care facilities?
S.L.: Yes, I think so, probably on a smaller scale, but they haven't restored care to 100% of what people had before.
There is still a limit to the number of people who can visit at the same time, there are still masks, so that's big too, these people, they still don't see smiles and there are still protocols when it comes to drugs that have not come back. It's on a smaller scale, but we are still in a situation of abuse...
On the other hand, as far as staffing is concerned, it is starting to pick up again, there is no longer a lack of staff.
To read also: A private screening in Montreal on deaths in long term care centers (CHSLD)
To read also: Interview with Dr Robert Beliveau an expert from the documentary on victims in the Quebec long term care centers
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